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What did we ever do during long builds, before the web?

Any book that has a chapter entitled "Sixty-two Cups of Broccoli" is all right by me.

Date: 2005-07-19 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimovberlioz.livejournal.com
Yum, Bushbane, as I used to call it. Unfortunately, it only applied to the older one.

Date: 2005-07-19 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dianec42.livejournal.com
D'oh! It's actually "Sixty-two Cups of Spinach". This is what I get for letting my mind wander...

Date: 2005-07-20 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimovberlioz.livejournal.com
OK, Blutobane, then.

Date: 2005-07-20 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feste-sylvain.livejournal.com
Before the web, on IBM AIX systems which would routinely take forty-five minutes to build a simple stinking 75 megabyte executable...


We'd go to lunch.

Date: 2005-07-20 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jim-p.livejournal.com
You had six lunches a day, did you? ;)

Date: 2005-07-20 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feste-sylvain.livejournal.com
Oh no, the AIX monstrosity was only built after the code had been proven out on Solaris, IRIX, HPUX, and POSIX. We used to put off IBM-specific bugs until some new hire could be "delegated" some of our bug-lists.

Standard builds were started on the AIX just before we went home for the night; only cross-platform debug builds were done before lunch, so that we could prove out the fix before submitting the changes to the standard build.

Years later, I fully understood why IBM ditched AIX (for the most part) and ported everything to Linux.

Date: 2005-07-20 02:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] blipvert.livejournal.com


It was a techie revolt over the stuffed suits. Would never have happened without a fairly extensive skunkworks project combined with well placed leaks of information and code. The political decision to stick with AIX had already been set in stone, and only got reversed due to incredible outside pressure from customers and tech journals.

IBM remains a unique place in that this kind of hacktivism is not only permitted, but occasionally celebrated. Quite a few veterans of the guerilla war to save VM/370 from extinction at the hands of MVS hardliners have survived to senior management positions with their sympathies intact.

Date: 2005-07-20 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dianec42.livejournal.com
Forty-five minutes? Piker.

I have acquired some scripting books to read whilst waiting for the scripts to do their thing (which seems to take, typically, two to four hours per step). It seems an appropriate way to pass the time.

Date: 2005-07-20 01:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] blipvert.livejournal.com


That depends on what decade you're talking about.

Late 80s to early 90s: most people had mailing lists and/or access to USENET to provide ample distraction.

Mid 80s: solitaire, minesweeper, bitching to boss about slowness of machine and need for new one, othello/reversi

Early 80s: small annoying puzzles, ping pong, darts.

70s: "smoke another joint, it'll be a while"

60s: drop your card deck off at the data centre, forget about it until the next morning

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